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On this special episode, we talk to Miguel de Icaza of Novell (co-founder of Gnome) about his work on the Mono and Moonlight projects, what he thinks about the Novell/Microsoft deal and the surrounding controversy, programming technologies in general and much more.

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Introduction

We introduce our interview with Miguel and the reasoning for releasing another stand-alone episode, there will be another usual episode soon.

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The Interview

We talk to Miguel de Icaza, co-founder of Gnome, Mono, Moonlight and Vice President for Developer Platform at Novell about what he does at Novell, his relationship with Microsoft, how he came to F/OSS and what he is working on nowadays. He tells us what he thinks about Gnome and KDE these days, software innovation and marketing in general, what he thinks about many different programming technologies and how he came to create the Mono and later on the Moonlight project. We ask him about the widespread criticism about Mono and the Novell/Microsoft deal and why he thinks people should nonetheless use Mono. But we also talk about a lot of other things, including Banshee, dating Biologists, Twixes and much more.

Links for the movies we talked about:

• Glengarry Glen Ross
• Antitrust

Song: A Town Called Malice from the album Oh Yes! by The Rinky Dinks

The theme music for this podcast is a song called “Sudo Modprobe”, it was written by Fab and produced and performed by Dan and Fab. The artwork for the album cover and the site including the Outlaw Tux was created by Fab. All material in this podcast is released under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 3.0 license.